First Thoughts: Where's the buzz?

Where's the buzz surrounding the possible 2012 Republicans?... Politico says Hillaryland has its eyes on 2016, not 2012… Obama speaks at rally for O'Malley at 3:15 pm ET… While we all focus on the DE and AK Senate races, don't forget about CO, IL, PA, WV, and WI… GOP outside money groups have an 8-to-1 spending advantage… "Hicky, blue-collar look"?... About last night's Crist-Meek-Rubio debate… Profiling VA-2… And Blumenthal and McMahon square off in another debate.


*** Where's the buzz? President Obama today hits another rally (for Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley), after recently drawing 26,000 in Wisconsin. But looking ahead to 2012, we've heard some Republicans ask: If the GOP's '12 nominee was out there, wouldn't that person already have a considerable following? After all, conservatives and Republicans right now are displaying unprecedented enthusiasm, energy, and engagement about the coming midterm elections. That's largely why Republicans are poised to make big gains next month. But given this GOP excitement, it's striking that -- outside of Sarah Palin (and she could be more exciting to the media than to the base) -- none of it has rubbed off the potential '12 Republicans.

*** Comparing '06 with now: In 2006, due to his rock-star status campaigning for other Democrats, political observers could already sense that Obama would be a BIG deal if he ran for president. Ditto Hillary Clinton, whose march to Senate re-election was attracting plenty of buzz. Right now, the only Republican outside of Palin who's even approaching the same buzz that Obama and Clinton received in '06 is someone who has said he won't run: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. There are A LOT of 2012 GOPers traveling the country (Romney, Pawlenty, Huckabee, Santorum, etc), and none is even close to getting real buzz in the base of the party right now.

*** Speaking of buzz about 2012 (and also 2016): Thanks to Drudge and cable TV's need to feed the beast, we're not sure the Hillary-Biden "Trading Places" story is really going to go away, despite strong denials by the White House and Clinton. Indeed, Politico yesterday noted that Hillaryland's true target isn't VP in 2012 but rather president in 2016. "Not happening," one of her 2008 campaign's topmost figures said about Clinton becoming VP in '12. "Stay tuned for 2016." More: "Many in Clinton's broader circle assume that she is positioning herself with an eye toward that 2016 bid – not that they claim to have first-hand knowledge of it. 'Once you run for president you always want to be president," James Carville … told POLITICO when he was asked about Hillary Clinton's prospects. "My assumption is that once you've run you're going to run again." Of course, the whole story was written on the premise of making an assumption about her ambition. Those closest to Hillary acknowledge folks AROUND Clinton are more interested in seeing her run again than the prospective candidate herself. In fact, she's actually starting to get into a groove in her current job and starting to enjoy more this year than she did last year.

*** How quickly we forget 1994: The Politico article also made this point: "The renewed buzz around Clinton's prospects, though, has been driven by the political weaknesses of Obama and Biden. Fanned by a media eager for conflict and fascinated by all things Clinton, the spark for the notion of Clinton's return to politics comes from her original argument against Obama. Clinton made the case in the Democratic primaries that Obama would be unable to win among working-class white Democratic voters. The Democrats head into the midterms profoundly weak among some of those same white voters - though Obama's biggest problem remains with Republicans, and pollsters argue that their real problem is a lackluster Democratic base." Yet here's our question: If Bill Clinton couldn't avoid what happened in '94, then do we think Hillary as president would be any stronger than Obama is right now, especially with unemployment at 10%? Classic grass-is-always-greener-on-the-other-side analysis.

*** Obama's day: As mentioned above, President Obama delivers remarks at 3:15 pm ET at a rally for Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley at Bowie State University, a historically black college. Then, in the early evening, he flies to Chicago to speak at a fundraiser for Alexi Giannoulias at 7:00 pm ET.

*** Don't you … forget about me: While the political and news world fixates on the Senate contests in Delaware (because of Christine O'Donnell) and Alaska (because of Todd Palin's nasty-gram email to Joe Miller), we want to remind folks that there are MUCH more competitive and consequential Senate races out there. Some examples: Colorado, Illinois, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. In fact, these are, perhaps, the five CLOSEST Senate races in the country, and they rank near the bottom in coverage. Hmmm

*** GOP outside group's 8-to-1 spending advantage: On Tuesday, we wrote about how GOP-leaning outside groups were blowing away Dem outside groups in TV ad spending. Here are some fresh numbers a source sent us: From August until now, GOP groups have spent nearly $41 million in key Senate seats, including $8.8 million by American Crossroads and $14 million by Crossroads GPS. By comparison, Dem groups have spent just $5.5 million in these states. That's an 8-to-1 advantage for the GOP. Wow…

*** The 'hicky' blue-collar look? Remember that recent tough TV ad the National Republican Senatorial Committee is running against Joe Manchin in West Virginia? The ad features three men -- wearing flannel and baseball caps -- having a conversation about how "Obama's messin' things up" and how Manchin "does whatever Obama wants." Well, it turns out those weren't West Virginians. Rather, they were actors shooting the ad from Philadelphia, and they weren't just actors, Politico reports. "'We are going for a "Hicky" Blue Collar look,' read the casting call for the ad, being aired by the National Republican Senatorial Committee. 'These characters are from West Virginia so think coal miner/trucker looks.'" All of a sudden, Manchin now has three things to hit GOP opponent John Raese with: 1) that Raese's wife is a resident of another state; 2) Raese's position on the minimum wage; and 3) this casting call that doesn't necessarily portray West Virginia in a positive light.

*** About last night: Here's the Miami Herald's take on last night's Crist-Meek-Rubio debate in Florida: "Marco Rubio got the front-runner treatment in a combative U.S. Senate debate Wednesday night, with both his rivals attacking him as a right-wing extremist out of step with Florida voters." Here's the St. Pete Times: "The surprise of the night was Meek, the Democrat trailing in the polls, money and enthusiasm. Meek was strong throughout the hour, landing some of the best lines." Here's ABC: "[I]n the end, neither Gov. Charlie Crist (I) nor Rep. Kendrick Meek (D) was able to knock frontrunner Marco Rubio (R) off his game." And here is the take from NBC's Adam Verdugo, who was there: It was clear that both Crist and Meek had Rubio in their sights. Rubio is the clear frontrunner in the polls and just before the debate, Rubio's campaign announced a record haul of $5 million in the last quarter, the largest from a Senate candidate this quarter.

*** 75 House races to watch: VA-2: The Democratic nominee is first-term incumbent Glenn Nye, and his GOP opponent is businessman Scott Rigell. In 2008, Obama won 51% in this district -- representing Virginia Beach -- while Bush won 58% in '04. As of June 30, Nye had nearly $1.3 million in the bank, versus Rigell's $227,000. Nye voted against the stimulus, cap-and-trade, and health care. Cook rates the contest as Toss Up, while Rothenberg has it Lean Republican.

*** More midterm news: In Colorado, Campaign Money Watch, a nonpartisan campaign finance reform watchdog group, is up with a big ad buy against Ken Buck… In Connecticut, Dick Blumenthal and Linda McMahon square off in another debate today.

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The GOP just like the DEMS do not get it yet! They are all hated by "WE THE PEOPLE", yes Lynard Skynard sang a song for them years ago"THE SMELL OF DEATH SURROUNDS YOU"! We can not trust any of them for they lie thru their teeth on a regular basis, fail to keep any promise and depise the people that over pay them for the small amount of work they do! They take pay raises($19,000 increase) for inflation while denying the elderly because there was no inflation in their world! They be smart and we be dumb they think! Some will get a wake up in November!

    Reply#126 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:49 PM EDT

    It sounds good, however who is running in November? GOP and Democratic candidates. So not sure that they are all hated. What I think solves much of the anger I hear is four shot solution:

    Term limits (4 for House members, 2 for Senate)

    Public funding agency that collects contributions and distributes evenly to all candidates running for a particular office

    Sunshine law on lobbying firms

    Dissolve the 501(c) laws altogether.

      #126.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:04 PM EDT
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      Seems to me Rubio has some buzz. Possibly Miller, still, despite his off-base minimum wage gaffe.

        Reply#127 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:49 PM EDT

        osamaobama

        US Navy Disabled Veteran - Retired

        XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

        More ignorance from the Communists...I suspect that you are actually a woman based upon your posts but I could be wrong...Lord knows in this day and age there are some really feminine guys out there...but really, passing yourself off as "retired navy" ???? Were you a casualty of "don't ask, don't tell" ?

        Why are you spewing so much hatred? It's not necessary for you to personally attack a member of the Armed Service who risked his life to take a bullet for your freedom. As a mother of a son in the Army I am embittered and saddened @ your hatred. Attack the policies but; not an individual who put his/her life on the line for US.

        You own Navy an apology.

        In regards to Communism, have you taken the challenge I gave you today? Again, I challenge you to not be a major exponent of the "FREEDUMB" FOX NOOSE echo chamber.

        Communist has been following groups around for over 100 years; particularly Black groups. After all, this is a free country. The TEA Party is supported and bankrolled by the Koch Brothers and Karl Rove's billionaire's club who support sociopaths like militia groups. There is no comparison for militia groups which advocate violence and anarchy to Communist. Therefore you have no rational argument. If, you don't believe me, just ask the nut bag Tea Party candidate what is Sharon Angle speak for her 2nd amendment remedies?


        http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/09/30/jk.rise.of.militias.cnn

        Dr Martin Luther King Jr was also accused of being Communist did you not know that?

        J. Edgar Hoover's FBI to portray King as a Bolshevik is the same as you righties trying to portray the President as a Communist.The President is not a Communist. He is a Christian.

        In Dr King's words... "Now, don't think that you have me in a "bind" today. I'm not talking about Communism.

        http://www.famous-speeches-and-speech-topics.info/martin-luther-king-speeches/martin-luther-king-speech-where-do-we-go-from-here.htm

        Communism will never survive in the Black Community. It is antithetical to the core beliefs of most Blacks. I bet you don't know way? Black Christians believe in God and have used that faith in God since slavery whether it was for rejoicing or to escape the drudges of slavery. That unshakable faith has endured to the present day. The Black Church is the most powerful institution in its community; I would argue. That's why all politicians will make their rounds to it during election.

        Communism is a joke. It failed. Likewise so does yours and other righties accusing our President as a Communist.

        I would be more worried about the militia groups in the Tea Party; if I were you.

        Every one red cent gained by the working middle class and working poor has been exploited by Wall Street and corporatist like the billionaires you speak for.

        It always pays to know what you are talking about before you speak.

        When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

        Sinclair Lewis quote

        • 1 vote
        Reply#128 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:58 PM EDT

        It always pays to know what you are talking about before you speak.

        Very true words. Anyone who has studied communism and have lived in a communist country can tell you that the American left is the closest thing we have in the US to communism. From the Communist Party USA's endorsement of Barack Obama to the union tactics to gain "social justice" and its devotion to group thought, there is little doubt who embraces the communist ways.

        • 3 votes
        #128.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:07 PM EDT

        "Likewise so does yours and other righties accusing our President as a Communist."

        I don't think Obama is a communist. I would like to know however what he ment when he said he thinks it a good thing when the government spreads the wealth around.

        What does government being in charge of "spreading the wealth" mean to you?

        • 1 vote
        #128.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT

        Tracy1973

        And don't forget the people he hired. Van Jones, Anita Dunn, Carol Browner, Mark Lloyd and czars which could never had made it through senate confirmation because of their communist past. They have all said publicly they are either communist or socialist.

        • 2 votes
        #128.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT

        More apologies for your Communism ? I am a veteran who risked my life for your freedom, but I don't have to tolerate your ignorance. As for "Navy" I can't imagine a real veteran with such effete values. Your little group of "feel good Marxists" that post on here are an insult to every veteran that has served.

        • 1 vote
        #128.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:42 PM EDT

        Osama your a Communist Muslim and you and your Al-Queda buddies will be destroyed. How dare you mess with us Americans!! You lie about being a veteran! Your really Osama! We will find you!

        • 1 vote
        #128.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:38 PM EDT
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        Quick, what happened to hope and change?

          Reply#129 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT

          It was spent....in the trillions.

          • 2 votes
          #129.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
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          I have one, Dana Perino for 2012.  See http://www.danaperinoforpresident.com

          She's smart and hot. :)

          Enough of this Palin stuff.

           

            Reply#130 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT

            And she is a RINO, just like Karl Rove. Both were responsible for Bush running as a compassionate conservative which is code for liberal lite. they are part of the open border, amnesty crowd. Their way caused the Republicans the Congress in 2006 and 2007.

              #130.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:09 PM EDT
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              The Republicans need to find a way to remove Ms Palin from the equation as a potential Presidential candidate for 2012 or ever.

              Ms "Soccer Mom" is the scariest thing to come along in Presidential politics since that foolish Dan Quayle. She, like Dan, is so stupid she does not have a clue just how stupid she is.

                Reply#131 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT

                Bigot and wrong... Just because you could never get a date in school and you are still home with your mother, you think you know so much. What did obame ever manage? Nothing, he is the stupid one. Palin has managed a huge state with important resources for the rest of the country, not like you or obame manging to get some more affirmative action somewhere!

                • 1 vote
                #131.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT

                Why RJ? She appears to have a higher approval rating than the President.

                • 1 vote
                #131.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT

                Yes, thestraight forward truth is, she scares the Hell out of you, Sara Palin (R) last time I checked was a Mother, Governor, canidate for VP, Tax Payer, Honest & Truthful Citizen, scares the hell out of the Progressives, and has ever right to run for president if she wants to..just Like Alvin Green (D) of South Carlonia does, you dont have to vote for her, you dont have to listen to her, you dont have to do anything...maybe youll lose your fear, who knows.

                • 1 vote
                #131.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:53 PM EDT
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                All i have to say about this all are these two quotes by Madison

                "All men having power should be distrusted to a certain degree."

                James Madison

                "Do not separate text from historical background.If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."

                James Madison

                  Reply#132 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:04 PM EDT

                  My question is - how soon did we hear about Obama before he began campaigning for President and who knew about him other than those in his home state of Illinois and those who chose him and anointed him the democratic challenger? It is silly to say that the Republicans have to have someone already chosen and showing a good deal of a following already when you did not expect the Democrats to to the same thing. This kind of silly dialogue is unfruitful and particularly annoying because you prove yourselves once again to be hypocrites.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#133 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT

                  Please, any republican will be way better then the crap we have now! The janitor where I work is smarter about life then obame.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#134 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:10 PM EDT

                  This Snope's site verifies letter is authentic.

                  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2447492/posts

                  Subject: Real Truth About Palin

                  Sarah Palin
                  Democrat, Independent, or Republican....the second half of this
                  email should make all of us very sick, send this on .....especially the
                  second half......

                  READ TO THE VERY END! VERY ENLIGHTENING!!! AND VERY DISTURBING!!!

                  By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
                  As posted in comments on Greta's article referencing the MOVEON ad
                  about Sarah Palin.

                  The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town
                  in Alaska . I understand Alaska politics but never understood national
                  politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side
                  of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric,
                  it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things
                  that I'm about to mention here.

                  1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats,
                  because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow
                  Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's
                  "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now
                  residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits. The Democrats
                  reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la
                  la la" (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country
                  that has ever done anything similar.

                  2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to
                  protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted
                  a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest
                  corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door
                  hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents
                  went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other
                  huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the
                  name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

                  3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's
                  office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for
                  projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and
                  placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that
                  if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured
                  she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet
                  because it was extravagant. Maybe she could use the money she saved by
                  dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own
                  family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she
                  already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never
                  mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still
                  waiting to hear the names of those other governors.

                  4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she
                  also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas
                  pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the
                  history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If
                  that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed
                  while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies
                  with her other hand.

                  5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a
                  place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they
                  couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment.
                  No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them
                  she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and
                  threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the
                  way to the court house. Alaska won again.

                  6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources
                  for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her
                  plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I
                  can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and
                  persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's
                  just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other
                  governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't
                  be holding my breath.

                  By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national
                  election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these
                  adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told
                  them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without
                  warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.

                  You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media,
                  along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit
                  her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral
                  people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents' wives.

                  So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts,
                  determination, honesty, and morals.

                  I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to the biased media.

                  If you've read this far

                  ...............................................now ,open your eyes..........

                  First Lady Michelle Obama's Servant List and Pay Scale.
                  First Lady Requires More Than Twenty Attendants

                  1. $172,200 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
                  2. $140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Deputy Assistant to the President
                  and Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
                  3. $113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (Special Assistant to the
                  President and White House Social Secretary)
                  4. $102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the
                  President and Director of Communications for the First Lady)
                  5. $100,000 - Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President
                  and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
                  6. $90,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the
                  First Lady)
                  7. $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to
                  the First Lady)
                  8. $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance
                  for the First Lady)
                  9. $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and
                  Projects for the First Lady)
                  10. $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social
                  Secretary)
                  11. $64,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy
                  Social Secretary)
                  12. $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling
                  and Events Coordinator For The First Lady)
                  13. $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip
                  Director for the First Lady)
                  14. $57,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to
                  the First Lady)
                  15. $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy
                  Press Secretary to The First Lady)
                  16. $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special=2 0Assistant for
                  Scheduling and Traveling Aide to The First Lady)
                  17. $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of
                  Correspondence For The First Lady)
                  18. $43,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social
                  Office)
                  19. $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief
                  Of Staff to the First Lady)
                  20. $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social
                  Secretary)
                  21. $35,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
                  22. $35,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of
                  Correspondence for the First Lady)

                  (This is community organizing at it's finest.)
                  There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has
                  created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of
                  the First Lady's social life. One wonders why she needs so much help, at
                  taxpayer expense, when even Hillary, only had three; Jackie Kennedy one;
                  Laura Bush one; and prior to Mamie Eisenhower social help came from the
                  President's own pocket.

                  Note:
                  This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and
                  "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard Air
                  Force One to Europe .

                  FRIENDS.....THESE SALARIES ADD UP TO SIX MILLION, THREE HUNDRED
                  SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($6,364,000) FOR THE 4 YEARS OF OFFICE?????

                  AND WE ARE IN A RECESSION?????

                  WELL....MOST OF US ARE. I GUESS IT'S OK TO SPEND WILDLY WHEN IT'S
                  NOT YOUR OWN MONEY?????

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#135 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT

                  Per factcheck.org

                  First Ladies Past

                  The chain e-mail’s author claims that "[t]here has never been anyone in the White House at any time that has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady’s social life." The author claims that "even Hillary, only had three; Jackie Kennedy one; Laura Bush one." But the counts for those first ladies are incorrect – and they’re way off.

                  Stephen Plotkin, reference archivist for the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, told us in an e-mail that Jacqueline Kennedy’s office was "headed" by one person, but said that there were "at least 9 people working for Mrs. Kennedy, with the promise of a great many more" during her time at the White House.

                  Kim Coryat, an archives technician at the William J. Clinton Presidential Library, told us it can be difficult to nail down a precise count of staff considering "White House staffing for all offices ebbs and flows with time." But she said in an e-mail that White House telephone directory records indicate that Hillary Clinton had at least a staff of 13 as of October 1993; 18 as of April 1997; and 19 as of March 2000.

                  Lelyveld said that Michelle Obama’s staff was actually no different than that of her predecessor, Laura Bush. "[W]e have exactly the same staff number as Mrs. Bush and our office organization reflects a similar staffing model, so insinuations otherwise are wrong," she said. Lelyveld said that the White House’s "personnel records indicate" that there were 24 staffers for Laura Bush at some point. We were able to verify at least 18 staffers for Laura Bush, as of June 30, 2008, via the 2008 White House staff list published in The Washington Post’s White House Watch column. Sixteen people were specifically referred to as a "first lady" staffer, and Amy Zantzinger and Dorothy Thornton served as White House social secretary and deputy social secretary, respectively. It’s possible that someone with the title of "staff assistant" was assigned to the Office of First Lady as well, as is the case with Michelle Obama’s staff.

                  The combined annual salaries for the 22 staffers we can specifically identify as working for Michelle Obama come to $1.6 million. For the 18 we could identify as working for Laura Bush in 2008, the total is $1.4 million.

                  • 1 vote
                  #135.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT

                  ??????????????

                  This Snope's site verifies letter is authentic.

                  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2447492/posts

                  Oh, Please give me a break. Of course it's authentic; although it was written by a person who adores Palin; does not mean it true.

                  Why don't you visit the ADN and find out how Alaskans really feel.

                  Btw: freerepublic is that not a right wing blog?

                  • 1 vote
                  #135.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  The one GOP candidate I could vote for (but I know he would never run) would be Colin Powell. His only downside is that he does not buy into the ridiculous social agenda of the Republican party, otherwise he probably the best hope for being a populous candidate that I think could actually be a positive for the country.

                    Reply#136 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT

                    Quick, how many dumbocrats will lose their job in 2010?

                      Reply#137 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT

                      Not as many as you think... House will probably be taken over by the GOP, but NOT by a 2/3rd majority and thus repeal of anything will not be possible. The Senate will likely be held by the Democrats and if for no other reason because of Biden.

                      This will force GOP members to finally legislate and create consensus on bills... Or, shut the whole process down. Not good for America.

                        #137.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT

                        Mic C

                        Like obame is good for America!

                          #137.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT

                          Obama holds the executive branch... we are discussing the legislative branch.

                          Obama may have an ideological governing style that differs from the GOP, but to suggest that he has somehow change America is just not accurate.

                            #137.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:41 PM EDT
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                            Whatever happened to a government

                            of the people, by the people, for the

                            people?? The American dream is in

                            foreclosure, while politicians pursue

                            special interests and agendas for

                            personal gain. Corruption and greed

                            in the highest places of power, and

                            apathy and indifference abound!!

                              Reply#138 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT

                              republicans are trying to buy what theycan't get with the ballot box !!! and, with their penchant for old white men palin is out and romney will go nowhere fast in 2012 !!!

                                Reply#139 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT

                                This Snope's site verifies letter is authentic.

                                http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2447492/posts

                                Subject: Real Truth About Palin

                                Sarah Palin
                                Democrat, Independent, or Republican....the second half of this
                                email should make all of us very sick, send this on .....especially the
                                second half......

                                READ TO THE VERY END! VERY ENLIGHTENING!!! AND VERY DISTURBING!!!

                                By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
                                As posted in comments on Greta's article referencing the MOVEON ad
                                about Sarah Palin.

                                The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town
                                in Alaska . I understand Alaska politics but never understood national
                                politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side
                                of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric,
                                it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things
                                that I'm about to mention here.

                                1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats,
                                because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow
                                Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's
                                "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now
                                residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits. The Democrats
                                reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la
                                la la" (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country
                                that has ever done anything similar.

                                2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to
                                protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted
                                a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest
                                corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door
                                hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents
                                went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other
                                huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the
                                name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

                                3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's
                                office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for
                                projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and
                                placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that
                                if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured
                                she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet
                                because it was extravagant. Maybe she could use the money she saved by
                                dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own
                                family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she
                                already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never
                                mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still
                                waiting to hear the names of those other governors.

                                4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she
                                also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas
                                pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the
                                history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If
                                that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed
                                while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies
                                with her other hand.

                                5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a
                                place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they
                                couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment.
                                No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them
                                she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and
                                threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the
                                way to the court house. Alaska won again.

                                6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources
                                for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her
                                plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I
                                can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and
                                persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's
                                just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other
                                governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't
                                be holding my breath.

                                By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national
                                election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these
                                adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told
                                them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without
                                warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.

                                You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media,
                                along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit
                                her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral
                                people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents' wives.

                                So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts,
                                determination, honesty, and morals.

                                I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to the biased media.

                                If you've read this far

                                ...............................................now ,open your eyes..........

                                First Lady Michelle Obama's Servant List and Pay Scale.
                                First Lady Requires More Than Twenty Attendants

                                1. $172,200 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
                                2. $140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Deputy Assistant to the President
                                and Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
                                3. $113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (Special Assistant to the
                                President and White House Social Secretary)
                                4. $102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the
                                President and Director of Communications for the First Lady)
                                5. $100,000 - Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President
                                and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
                                6. $90,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the
                                First Lady)
                                7. $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to
                                the First Lady)
                                8. $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance
                                for the First Lady)
                                9. $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and
                                Projects for the First Lady)
                                10. $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social
                                Secretary)
                                11. $64,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy
                                Social Secretary)
                                12. $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling
                                and Events Coordinator For The First Lady)
                                13. $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip
                                Director for the First Lady)
                                14. $57,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to
                                the First Lady)
                                15. $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy
                                Press Secretary to The First Lady)
                                16. $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special=2 0Assistant for
                                Scheduling and Traveling Aide to The First Lady)
                                17. $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of
                                Correspondence For The First Lady)
                                18. $43,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social
                                Office)
                                19. $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief
                                Of Staff to the First Lady)
                                20. $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social
                                Secretary)
                                21. $35,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
                                22. $35,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of
                                Correspondence for the First Lady)

                                (This is community organizing at it's finest.)
                                There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has
                                created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of
                                the First Lady's social life. One wonders why she needs so much help, at
                                taxpayer expense, when even Hillary, only had three; Jackie Kennedy one;
                                Laura Bush one; and prior to Mamie Eisenhower social help came from the
                                President's own pocket.

                                Note:
                                This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and
                                "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard Air
                                Force One to Europe .

                                FRIENDS.....THESE SALARIES ADD UP TO SIX MILLION, THREE HUNDRED
                                SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($6,364,000) FOR THE 4 YEARS OF OFFICE?????

                                AND WE ARE IN A RECESSION?????

                                WELL....MOST OF US ARE. I GUESS IT'S OK TO SPEND WILDLY WHEN IT'S
                                NOT YOUR OWN MONEY?????

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                                #139.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:28 PM EDT

                                smith1: You do realize that Obama said he was going to take public funding with all the auditing that entails, like McCain did, then in mid campaign took private funding with no auditing raising over 700 million. A good portion from over-seas and pre-paid credit cards that can not be traced. And who wants to buy what?

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                                #139.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:34 PM EDT

                                as I said the GOP has a penchant for old white men who are bereft of ideas !!! palin is out and romney is going nowhere fast in 2012 !!!

                                  #139.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:30 PM EDT
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                                    Reply#140 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT

                                    You did an awful lot of research on republicans on a progressive website! Really? When you fell from the turnip truck did you land on your head? What did you expect love, truths, and admiration for republican?

                                    Palin is manufactured phenomenon? Then explain what Obama is?

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                                    Reply#141 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT

                                    And how much "buzz" was there about Obama in 2006?

                                      Reply#142 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT

                                      Palin is just another Obuma but for the Reb party. If this country can't come up with better people to run it, we will get what we have gotten and will deserve it.

                                      Politicians that practice Party service, Self service before Public service.

                                      As Governor, Palin has proven she is just another honey tongue career politician with no honor, integrity or character as a human being. Just what we have now as President and what we will have if she runs and gets elected as President.

                                      Better people have to step up and run for office and we have to support them from the attacks of career politicians who are trying to save their gravy train.

                                        Reply#143 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:22 PM EDT

                                        I never thought about it that way before. It does make sense.

                                        http://www.privacy-online.at.tc

                                          Reply#144 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:24 PM EDT

                                          It is possible that the Democratic Party will lose numerous seats in this mid-term election. The nation just isn't thrilled with the Presidents policies, unlike those media types that just get a thrill up their legs.

                                          What is freightening is what bills will be passed during the lame-duck congress in the balance of the year. The Dems didn't resolve the tax credit issue before the recess. With a number of Dems voted out of their seats, what will happen in the next session? What other agenda items that may harm the nation will also be passed?

                                          But, our liberal friends on this site will probably be happy. Darn that George Bush for creating problems that Obie had to resolve. well, I hope I have some change left in my pocket with this group in charge.

                                            Reply#145 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:24 PM EDT

                                            safecracker

                                            What specific policies have harmed the nation? Would it be financial reform? Health Care reform that saved Medicare from taking us down by 2020? I want to hear specifics.

                                              #145.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:49 PM EDT
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                                              I have to wonder why the Democrats are so afraid to run as a Democrat. Why not admit you voted for the health care bill? Why not admit what you did in congress? Afraid of the American people? Didn't seem to matter to your party when all this was going on. But now it matters when it is time to keep your job. Man up for what you all did.

                                              I have to admit the scary thing I saw this past weekend at your Democrat rally was all the communist influence displayed.

                                              If that is your party platform leave me out.

                                              You all want environmentalism as number 1 it sure wasn't displayed.

                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsG3RbfBug

                                              The influence of communist.

                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7X-0iA8L64&feature=related

                                              The tea party represents the center the Democrat party is now this

                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVwSxJ_lwr4&feature=related

                                              Vote this November a decision needs to be made.

                                                Reply#146 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT

                                                and next year, if the Dems remain in power, will be Cap and Tax. Count on it!!! Just one more nail in America's coffin.

                                                  #146.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
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                                                  The Queen of Hate Sally* Palin has damaged her career too much in this mid-term season to be a serious candidate for anything in 2012 above dog catcher. Even John McCain realizes what a huge blunder he made in picking her in 2008. She also went too far with the so-called tea party for the GOP establishment to give her any credence.

                                                  *The use of Sally is intentional.

                                                    Reply#147 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:28 PM EDT

                                                    The Republican Party doesn't need buzz to win back the White House in 2012. The American people are so disgusted with the Obama administrations (Regimes) failed policies and soaring debt that the Republicans could run a trained seal against Obama in 2012. If you look at the Generic Polls Obama loses to the un-named Republican Candidate by a fairly wide margin.

                                                    The truth hurts. Obama is an empty suit full of empty promises. Hopefully win the Republicans regain control of Congress in January the will not make the same mistakes as last time and will stick to their core values, or they'll get tossed out in 2012. The American people are fed up with business as usual. To be quite honest, party affiliation means very little unless you happen to be affiliated with Obama.

                                                      Reply#148 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:29 PM EDT

                                                      I got halfway through the headline and immediately though of several:

                                                      Newt Gingrich

                                                      Sara Palin

                                                      Mitch Daniels

                                                      Mitt Romney

                                                      Donald Trump

                                                      Then of course I read the rest of the headline.... "Can't name any? You're not alone" What a rag MSNBC has become... A liberal rag preaching to the liberal choir. Those who truly follow politics (getting your news exclusively from MSNBC does not qualify you) know there are SEVERAL folks out there considering white house runs, forming exploratory committees, etc. But MSNBC can't let on to that fact, because their mission is to try to make everyone believe that the republican party is dead, that all tea party members are uneducated bigots, and that Obama and Co really know what they are doing.

                                                      I say look for a fiscal conservative to emerge as the GOP front runner... Someone that people believe will be able to lead the country out of the economic mess that it's in. And it won't be via social engineering thinly disguised as economic policy, but via spending cuts, meaningful business tax cuts to stimulate hiring, and reduced government red tape on businesses. I'd keep my eyes on Mitch Daniels, no nonsense governor of Indiana. THe unions here don't like him because he has forced some tough choices, but our state is in much better shape that others around us because of the tough choices he's forced Indiana to make. We need this kind of leadership nationwide (if not from him, from someone like him!)

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                                                      Reply#149 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:29 PM EDT

                                                      You're right. Indiana has faired quite well under his leadership unlike OH where we have all Dems here from Sherrod Brown and RINO...might as well be a Dem; he voted w/Dems all along the way Voinovich. Our governor Strickland is a loser!!! We're the most 'unfriendly' business state in the country practically and I think a lot of our businesses went over to IN.

                                                        #149.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:35 PM EDT
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                                                        What a stupid note about "where's the buzz?" Typical shallow, history-ignorant liberal media. Two years prior to the 2008 election, was there a bunch of serious "buzz" about Obama? No, despite what this article claims. No one outside the party had even heard of him. Everyone, this writer included, had already coronated Hillary as the nominee. Obama's meteoric rise to the top occurred in a matter of months, and the CLintons STILL don't know what hit them.

                                                          Reply#150 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
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